[*defined by total inclusiveness at the expense of personal, religious, and (as a result) societal freedoms]
The GZ Mosque has applied for government grants to finish construction of a Mosque that did NOT exist prior to that day, September 11, 2001.
The St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church-- the only church destroyed on 9/11 --has been refused the right to rebuild on it's old site, across the street from Ground Zero.
The City of New York has bent over backward to accommodate the GZ Mosque; the construction of which is a huge slap in the face to most New Yorkers, to say nothing of most Americans.
The City of New York has impeded and ultimately denied a Christian church the right to rebuild what Muslims destroyed.
Mayor Bloomberg has banned all clergy and prayer from the 10th anniversary observance at Ground Zero in 12 days.
Why does New York... why does New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg hate God? Why does he deny Christians a vocal presence at the 10th anniversary memorial? What is wrong with America, with American politics, that it can't bring itself to welcome God to Ground Zero; that it will not allow a Christian church to rebuild, but will allow the religion that brought the tower's down to build a mosque; a symbol of gloating, and an affront to most Americans for it's sheer audacity?
What is so evil about Christianity that it must be denied a voice? Will there be a Muslim cleric there? Will he speak? Will a Hindu be there? Some other motivational speaker? Why do Americans hate God so much that they drive him publicly from events like this? Why is Christ so hated that Christians are told to keep silent at a time when, and where, prayers are not only warranted, but a comfort to (and desired by) many who will attend.
Is all this being done simply to not offend someone? or a group of someones?
What? God kicked us out of HIS Garden, so we're gonna kick HIM out of ours?
This is nonsense, and America will pay for it. And by that I mean: are an earthquake and a hurricane Not enough of a warning for you, America?
Tuesday, August 30, 2011
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Why do you have to conflate America, patriotism and the United States with your religion?
ReplyDeleteThe attacks on the World Trade Center were about political ideology and cultural ideology as much as spiritual ideology.
How arrogant to insist that the attacks and rebuilding from must be memorialized with your religious preference.
There's no prayer or priest when the President lays a wreath on the tomb of the unknown soldier on Memorial Day. Before the Boston Pops launch their 4th of July fireworks extravaganza, no one sings a hymn. And Thanksgiving can be religious or not, according to each family, community and person.
It is the viewpoint of the fanatic to insist that events can only be appreciated, and experienced through the viewpoint of religion.
And it certainly is lazy to suggest that religious bias is the cause of The St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church not being rebuilt.
"are an earthquake and a hurricane Not enough of a warning for you, America?"
ReplyDeleteAND more arrogance from the god squad...assuming you understand the divine motive behind natural events.
Perhaps the earthquake and hurricane were a warning to North Carolina where the Republican presidential candidates were campaigning last week?
Or maybe it's a warning to east coast polluters, or meat eaters, or oil executives, maybe it might even have been a rebuke at holier-than-thou Christians who think they know the mind of their deity?
Humility...not just a pretty girl's name.
Who is the mayor of ANY U.S. city to declare men and women of God persona non grata at ANY public memorial?
ReplyDeleteAnd by the way, I am not 'holier than thou.' I've not said one thing in this post to suggest I am anything other than indignant over how my faith is routinely marginalized or excluded from public gatherings. Nothing in the constitution of the United States of America says I must hide who I am at any solemn event. The Mayor can invite or not invite to speak anyone whom he chooses. But he doesn't have the right silence religious speech. Not mine. Not yours.
So far I've found lot's of blogs and opinion pieces saying that mayor Bloomberg decided not to have any faith speakers at the memorial service, but I haven't found any actual news reports of such. Have you, or are you just taking the word of a gossip monger?
ReplyDeleteDoes deciding on the lineup/speakers at a memorial service really sound like something the mayor of New York would be wasting his time on? And can you see Michael Bloomberg declaring by fiat that no faith speaker will be at the podium?
It all sounds like mean tempered gossip from people who want to turn 9/11 into a religious observance/holiday.
But actually I think it is probably appropriate to not have someone presuming to represent the faith of those who died, and those who cleaned up, and those who witnessed the attacks.
I imagine our local memorial services will have pastors and reverends, and that will be appropriate, because our local services represent our local area, which is predominantly of one faith.
The service for the entire country shouldn't be a religious statement.
Oh what lies you tell. You are one sick puppy.
ReplyDeleteGet a life all of you. There should be no mosque, no church. Just plain piece of land to show "dust we are and to dust we returnth". We all need a slap in the face and some humility. We are nothing more than a sequence of baked sugars, fats and proteins - an accident of chemistry.
ReplyDelete"We are nothing more than a sequence of baked sugars, fats and proteins - an accident of chemistry."
ReplyDeleteYou make it hard to argue that such is true for you, but I'll thank you to speak for yourself.
As for Bloomberg, I found this link to a Newsbusters.com report. In it, it prints a transcript of Juan Williams sitting in for Bill O'Reilly and speaks of the mayor's decision. It contains a quote from him, and in the manner presented, would suggest that a clip of the mayor speaking the words was shown. Newsbusters, in a different article, cited Wall Street Journal as first reporting Bloomberg's decision, but I didn't want to subscribe just to provide the link here.
It is true that no clergy of any faith is invited to speak. The mayor offered lame crap about there being not enough room, as if it would be a burden to offer two minutes to representatives of the three major religions at a memorial service. Hell, at such an event two minutes could be offered to reps of a dozen faiths and only the most pathetic atheist would whine.
To suggest that there's no place for such at an event of this kind is about as pathetic a suggestion as one can imagine given the magnitude of the tragedy. How small must a person be to prohibit the comfort communal prayer can offer to the many people directly impacted by the actions of those 19 scumbags.