I've got to laugh at the first sentence in the article.
"The American people have spoken, and whatever our personal preferences, our duty as citizens is to support our next president. And he's going to need support..."
I don't know Ralph Peters' political philosophy, but I do know that the liberals who undermined America by trashing every move of the Bush administration for the past 8 years are in agreement with his first sentence. The blogosphere, the print media, and television news is flooded with pleas for oneness.
And I just have to laugh at that! If I've learned anything from leftists, it's that it is my DUTY to trash every move Barry O makes while in office, right?
But the really funny thing about this article is...while giddy liberaldom attempts to make us believe the world loves us now because of our new Messiah, the fact is...the world is laughing at us for our gullibility in electing such a man...with such a philosophy.
Our enemies see the election as a weakness. I agree with our enemies.
Our enemies are forced to deal with the greatest strength America has: democracy.
ReplyDeleteUm, the world is quite ecstatic over the election of Barack Obama as President of the United States. All one need do is peruse the press from around the world the day after the election to get the sense that most of the rest of the world is quite relieved that Barack Obama will be our next President. If our "enemies" (whoever they might be) are laughing at Obama, my question is simple - So what? Most of our so-called "enemies" - I am assuming you mean places like Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia - are themselves laughable places of little consequence (except insofar as the last on the list is a major coca producer). Let our "enemies" laugh all they want; Obama has shown who has the last laugh in the end. . .
ReplyDeleteGeoffrey,
ReplyDelete"...peruse the press..."
Thanks for another chuckle!
"...our so-called "enemies"..."
Harumph!
"...of little consequence..."
You'll have me rolling on the floor if you keep this up!
"...Obama has shown who has the last laugh in the end. . ."
Dude, he's not even POTUS yet and our enemies are mocking him!
Russia is of no consequence?
Iran?
You people all full of all sorts of inconsistencies, ain'tcha?
Feodor,
Tell that to Norm Coleman's campaign. If that's what you mean by "democracy", you are truly deluded.
It's laughable to hear "American" (see, can use quotes too) leftists pleading with the "world" to support support Barack Obama when they have undermined our present president with vigor!
Being a member of the loyal opposition is gonna give me grin dimples!
Norm Coleman's campaign?
ReplyDeleteWith a lead of 204 votes from 1.85 million cast (1.1% and dropping with corrections), democracy's interest in making sure who the voters chose is defense enough, I would think... to the rational.
Yep. You'll look just like the Joker.
I do not consider Russia an "enemy". Neither do I consider Iran such a one. I do not, indeed, see any "enemies" at all that are actual nation-states. I think al Qaeda is certainly a force to be reckoned with, but for the most part, the issues with which we need to deal on a global scale include global warming, some kind of supranational structure of economic and financial regulation, and various health threats including AIDS, tuberculosis, malaria, childhood diarrhea (a major killer in Africa), and various flu-like superbugs such as SARS. These are hardly the province of one nation, and are hardly "enemies" in the traditional sense. These are things that require something that has been lacking for the past eight years - real diplomacy, not strutting around telling everyone what to do.
ReplyDeleteI fail to understand what you people are talking about. I really do. The above is a discussion coming from the real world; where you are coming from, I just cannot fathom.
GKS, if you honestly fail to understand what D-Dad was takling about, then you should have stayed home on Election Day.
ReplyDeleteReally.
Do you really not understand why people around the world who do not have America's best interests at heart would be "quite ecstatic" over the election of a weak, inexperienced, and radical President who has arguably taken the Anti-American position on almost every issue he has bothered to take any position on over the course of his career?
(Remember, the President does not vote "present"...)
Of COURSE the enemies of America are ecstatic!
And, yes, America has some, whether you personally recognize them as such or not.
You guys have absolutely no idea what you have done...
Of COURSE the enemies of America are ecstatic!
ReplyDeleteProof? Evidence? Anything to back your claim that the world is happy because they perceive Obama to be a weak president?
Or ought we simply rely upon Tugboat's hunches?
You see, this is part of the problem that many of us (the majority of the US, I'd suggest) have with the Bush/Palin/Tug/Eric approach: It is anti-science, anti-intellectualism. It is based on gut feelings.
ReplyDelete"I THINK that the world is laughing at us, therefore it is." "If I THINK Iraq is a threat, then it is." "If I THINK the best way to deal with this perceived threat is to invade that country unprovoked - if I THINK the people there will welcome us with open arms as liberators - then that's most likely true. I gots a feelin' in my gut..."
Proof is for sissies in this worldview and anyone who requests that you actually provide evidence is suspect as someone who is too dependent upon "science."
No thanks. I don't believe I'm alone in not trusting Bush's or Eric's or Tug's gut.
The real enemies are people like Geoffrey, D. Trabue, and Feodor, who gleefully embrace the coming totalitarian state and condescendly sneer at us common people for attempting to warn them.
ReplyDeleteWhen America falls, it will come from within, and these pseudo-intellectuals are hastening our demise.
You see, this is part of the problem that many of us (the majority of the US, I'd suggest) have with the Bush/Palin/Tug/Eric approach: It is anti-science, anti-intellectualism. It is based on gut feelings.
ReplyDeleteProof? Evidence? Anything to back your claim that my approach is anti-science, anti-intellectual, or solely based on gut-feeling?
Dan, you are like a Koo-Koo clock.
"Proof! Proof!"
I trust my gut a whole lot further than I trust your feeble brain.
Mark is exactly right. YOU GUYS are the real enemies of America, and you are quite ecstacic.
There's your proof.
And for proof that Dan has a feeble brain, go here.
ReplyDeletehttp://paynehollow.blogspot.com/
Well done, Tug, Mark. Nicely validated my point.
ReplyDeleteAnd thanks for the link.
Geoffery said
ReplyDelete"I do not, indeed, see any "enemies" at all..."
C'mon, Jeff, not again!
Guffaw!
Jeff further states:
ReplyDelete"the issues with which we need to deal on a global scale include global warming, some kind of supranational structure of economic and financial regulation, and various health threats..."
My side's staring to hurt!
So funny. So absolutely anti-intellectual! And they want to call us uneduacated hicks!
Harumph!
Absolutely astounding how Geoff and co. can spin facts 180 degrees.
ReplyDeleteMark, I only sneer at you because you actually believe totalitarianism is a-comin'.
ReplyDeleteTugboatcapn, all I can say is that obviously the rest of the world doesn't have America's interests at heart. Why should they? We don't have their interests at heart. That is the way the world is. The difference is that we can either approach the world as if it is some scary dark forest full of evil creatures, or just a bunch of other countries trying to influence events and put forward their own agendas and interests even as we do, and figure out ways to work with them when we can, and agree to disagree when we can't.
Honestly, that's all there is to it.
Spin facts 180 degrees? At least I begin with facts.
ReplyDeleteI am an enemy of America. . . .
That is so tired, so lame, and not at all insulting. It's just name calling, pure and simple. You folks can't even agree to disagree, can't even accept that there are different ways to be American. I feel bad for you, because time, history, and politics are leaving you behind. I will continue to come here and comment, though, because it's fun.
Dan, I apologize for losing my temper this morning.
ReplyDeleteYou are not an enemy of America.
An enemy of common sense, an enemy of truth, an enemy of sound public policy maybe...
But not an enemy of America.
You are not that important.
You have to realize how utterly tiresome, tedious and boring it is to try to have a discussion anywhere around you, with your ridiculous opinions and demands for evidence for the most insignificant points.
The circular logic, the childish personal attacks, the smug condescension coupled with such a level of abject stupidity is sometime too much to bear.
I'm sorry.
I should have remembered who I was talking to.
Will you please forgive me for calling you an enemy of America?
I really hope that we can put this incident behind us.
Thanks!
Maybe now we can all discuss the issues facing us with a spirit of bi-partisanship, and mutual respect.
ReplyDeleteI feel so much better.
"The circular logic, the childish personal attacks, the smug condescension coupled with such a level of abject stupidity is sometime too much to bear."
ReplyDeleteHow does your wife take it?
See there?
ReplyDeleteI try to apologize, and my gesture of goodwill is met with nothing but personal attack.
There is absolutely no reasoning with these people!
Jeffy writes, "Mark, I only sneer at you because you actually believe totalitarianism is a-comin'."
ReplyDeleteIt must have been excrutiating for you to type that "Americana colloquialism", being the "intellectual" you believe yourself to be.
No, Jeffy, I don't believe totalitarianism is coming. I believe Obama plans will lead to totalitarianism.
If he's allowed to implement them.
I don't believe Lenin originally intended to create a fascist state when he led the Bolshevik revolution, either. I believe he, like Obamaniacs, believe Marx's vison of a Utopia was possible. But when he found it wasn't possible, that revelation, along with his new found taste of power, was the beginning of totalitarianism.
No, I don't believe it's "a-comin". And I don't believe Obama is an evil genius. I just believe he is naive, and deluded. I believe he believes he can make Socialism work. He has allowed Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" to form his policy, rather than the United States Constitution, which he believes is "fundamentally flawed" (his own words).
I still hold out hope that Americans will come to their collective senses and prevent him from accomplishing his lofty goals of Socialism.
A) Mark, Alinsky's Rules for Radicals concerns community organizing; Obama used it on the South Side of Chicago, and nationally, to organize not his policy, but his campaign.
ReplyDeleteB) I do not consider myself an intellectual at all. As Brant Parker and Johnny Hart wrote once in their cartoon "B.C.", a "pseudo-intellectual" is someone who knows what "pseudo" means; since you're the genius, could you help me out, because I thought it meant "false, fraudulent, erroneous".
C) I do so wish you would continue to claim Obama is a socialist, because that only keeps my hopes up. Sad to say, he is most likely to keep Robert Gates at Defense, which sends exactly the wrong signal; he plans to give corporations more free money (which, I suppose, is a kind of socialism); he wants to keep Joe Lieberman in the Democratic caucus in the Senate. These things are hardly the marks of a radical. Most of us liberals are pretty upset about these kinds of things.
D) I'm glad you feel comfortable enough with me to (a) misspell my name; and (b) use a familiar diminutive ("Jeffy") that only someone with real affection in their heart would us. Sadly, I'm taken, so you'll just have to yearn in your heart. . . .
Allright, Cap'n.
ReplyDeleteI'll say it.
Dan Trabue...you are an enemy of America...and an enemy of God.
mm-hmmm. How so?
ReplyDeleteDan, dude - you are truly Satanic. Not only an enemy of America, but God as well. May I join your evil conspiracy against mother, apple pie, baseball, and all things wholesome and good?
ReplyDeleteDan knows the evidence is there.
ReplyDeleteI long ago figured out that Dan is not deluded. He knows he's wrong and revels in being wrong. He is on a mission of evil in my book.
And he knows it.
I've read his crap for three years now...I've got his number as the rest of us do around here.
Oh, Dan's not a bad guy. He just likes to argue.
ReplyDeleteIf you say the sky is blue, he will present an argument that it isn't and then insist you agree with him.
Saul Alinsky was an admitted avowed Marxist. His book wasn't a guide book for community organizers. It was a text book for aspiring Marxists. The community organization bit was just a means to an end. He advocated infiltrating politics under the guise of community organizing, with the express purpose of destroying Democracy from within. Like Alinsky, Obama believes the end justifies the means, no matter how unethical, illegal, or fattening.
ReplyDeleteHow can someone be trained as a Marxist from his youth, sit listening enthralled at a Marxist's knee, study and teach from a Marxist book, and have no Marxist ideologies rub off on him?
In a fantasy land, maybe. Like the one you live in, Geoff.
So which is it? Do you have his number that he is on a mission of evil? Or do you just think he likes to argue?
ReplyDeleteI detect a lack of solidarity on an important issue here.
If you say the sky is blue, he will present an argument that it isn't and then insist you agree with him.
ReplyDeleteI see. How so? Where have I argued for argument's sake?
Show me, that I may learn and stop doing so (it would not surprise me if you were able to demonstrate such an incidence, I am only human. Show me, and I shall apologize for arguing for argument's sake.
"If your brother sins (against you), go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won over your brother.
If he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, so that 'every fact may be established on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
~Jesus' command to us
"Show me, that I may learn..."
ReplyDeleteJust google "Dan Trabue", Dan.
And study the results...really study them. You'll get it eventually.