tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post5515145307998785499..comments2023-05-10T04:52:13.662-05:00Comments on American Descent: Received In Email: Populism as a NegativeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-41881316409033931742011-11-08T08:15:03.415-06:002011-11-08T08:15:03.415-06:00As are the intellectual defectives who support the...As are the intellectual defectives who support them.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874712703862427318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-80008825358039646302011-11-08T08:14:27.643-06:002011-11-08T08:14:27.643-06:00"65% say government has a responsibility to g...<i>"65% say government has a responsibility to guarantee access to affordable health care, a college education, and a secure retirement."</i><br /><br />Those 65-percenters are, to the man (or woman, as the case may be) completely ignorant of governments constitutional role. This is why America is so fucked up as it is! Because government was allowed to do things they are not constitutionally allowed to do... like educate our children.<br /><br />Thanks to the federal government, those 65% are morons.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874712703862427318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-76196020878367390922011-11-08T01:01:48.178-06:002011-11-08T01:01:48.178-06:00It was quite informative, Eric. Ben showed that y...It was quite informative, Eric. Ben showed that your opinion of the protesters' intelligence is indeed very low. A hat tip to Ben for proving the point.<br /><br /><i>"Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before, 98% would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, and 31% would support violence to advance their agenda"</i><br /><br />These are not bright people.<br /><br /><i>"Most had supported Obama; now they are evenly divided."</i><br /><br />Not very bright at all.<br /><br /><i>"65% say government has a responsibility to guarantee access to affordable health care, a college education, and a secure retirement. They support raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans, and are divided on whether the bank bailouts were necessary."</i><br /><br />I'd say incredibly stupid, in fact.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-26819626659281183382011-11-07T22:12:09.344-06:002011-11-07T22:12:09.344-06:00Nice asshat remark, Ella. Ben provided four parag...Nice asshat remark, Ella. Ben provided four paragraphs of polling results from two separate polling firms WITH links to the source.<br /><br />I find it informative, and not just because it refutes pretty much everything you've written on the subject.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-49596946516099300532011-11-07T07:57:23.272-06:002011-11-07T07:57:23.272-06:00Informative? Really? Jim, you really are a tool.Informative? Really? Jim, you really are a tool.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874712703862427318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-81574598326424467272011-11-05T23:16:05.626-05:002011-11-05T23:16:05.626-05:00Perfect, Ben. Very informative. Thanks.Perfect, Ben. Very informative. Thanks.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-54767379032025333582011-11-05T15:32:18.789-05:002011-11-05T15:32:18.789-05:00Wikipedia may not be 100% accurate but it's gr...Wikipedia may not be 100% accurate but it's great for getting the basic facts of a subject.<br /><br />The protesters include persons of a variety of political orientations, including liberals, political independents, anarchists, socialists, libertarians, and environmentalists. At the protest's start, the majority of the demonstrators were young, mostly because the social networks through which the demonstrators spread their message are primarily used by younger people. [<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupy_Wall_Street" rel="nofollow">Link</a>]<br /><br />According to a survey of Zucotti Park protesters by the Baruch College School of Public Affairs published on October 19, of 1,619 web respondents, 1/3 were older than 35, half were employed full-time, 13% were unemployed and 13% earned over $75,000. 27.3% of the respondents called themselves Democrats, 2.4% called themselves Republicans, while the rest, 70%, called themselves independents. [<a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/1789018/occupy-wall-street-demographics-statistics#disqus_thread" rel="nofollow">Link</a>]<br /><br />On Oct. 10 and 11, the polling firm Penn, Schoen & Berland interviewed nearly 200 protesters. Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before, 98% would support civil disobedience to achieve their goals, and 31% would support violence to advance their agenda. Most are employed; 15% are unemployed. Most had supported Obama; now they are evenly divided. 65% say government has a responsibility to guarantee access to affordable health care, a college education, and a secure retirement. They support raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans, and are divided on whether the bank bailouts were necessary. [<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a>]<br /><br />When asked, "What frustrates you the most about the political process in the United States?," 30% said, "Influence of corporate/moneyed/special interests." Only 6% said "Income inequality" and 3% said, "Our democratic/capitalist system." When asked, "What would you like to see the Occupy Wall Street movement achieve?," 35% said "Influence the Democratic Party the way the Tea Party has influenced the GOP" and 11% said, "Break the two-party duopoly." Only 4% said "Radical redistribution of wealth." [<a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/10/19/who-is-occupying-wall-street-a-pollster-surveys-protester/" rel="nofollow">Link</a>]BenT - the Unbelievernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-92008009822212749382011-11-05T14:57:46.987-05:002011-11-05T14:57:46.987-05:00Jim,
The accusation against Jesse Watter qualifie...Jim,<br /><br />The accusation against Jesse Watter qualifies as an asshat assertion. What proof do you have that he isn't bringing examples of the smartest OWS people?Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-84237011701900266852011-11-05T13:48:46.453-05:002011-11-05T13:48:46.453-05:00Jesse Watters is a Fox "News" "cont...Jesse Watters is a Fox "News" "contributor" who does ambush journalism and also goes to OWS and interviews people then brings the most fringe ones to shows like Bill O'Reilly to imply that they represent the movement.<br /><br /><i>Look in the mirror.</i><br /><br />I don't make asshat assertions like <i>By any objective standard, the 99 Percent are not the brightest bunch,</i> But I invite you to find one.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-49410712189843758472011-11-05T12:21:22.168-05:002011-11-05T12:21:22.168-05:00Asshat? Look in the mirror. And who the hell is Je...Asshat? Look in the mirror. And who the hell is Jessie Waters?Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874712703862427318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-84625813041781051512011-11-04T21:35:41.032-05:002011-11-04T21:35:41.032-05:00your comments have devolved recently into puerile ...<i>your comments have devolved recently into puerile "I know you are, but what am I"'s.</i><br /><br />Sorry to contradict you, but that's a lame and untrue statement. Please feel free to actually cite an example that could be characterized as you have.<br /><br /><i>And yet you offer none of your own.</i><br /><br />Wait. So you make an asshat assertion without source or attribution and I'm supposed offer proof it's false?<br /><br />And I note you are using the Jesse Watters "reporting" as your source of information. All of the OWS people are crapping on cop cars, raping children, having unprotected sex. I heard they were performing abortions at Occupy Oakland.<br /><br /><i>person they were protesting against, whether they realized it or not, was me</i><br /><br />Oh so YOU are one of the Wall Street cheaters who wrecked the world economy and then got bailed out by the taxpayers?<br /><br /><i>they DO have the same rules</i><br /><br />I don't believe any of the OWS people were bailed out by the taxpayers. <i>tovarich</i>.<br /><br /><i>They DO want the 1%'s wealth.</i><br /><br />No, "they" don't.<br /><br /><i>Have you even listened to any of the interviews with these folk?</i><br /><br />"Interviews"? You mean the Jesse Watters cherry-picked at random "interviews". Yeah, I've seen them. They're hilarious.<br /><br /><i>It's not dishonest to call a spade a 'spade'.</i><br /><br />But it is dishonest to characterize the entire movement by the most radical among them. Or the ones Jesse Watters picked to air.<br /><br /><i>Tea Party supporters aren't interested in tearing down business in America,</i><br /><br />No, they are interested in tearing down the government because it is evil and not of God.<br /><br /><i>That's EXACTLY what the Left wants us to believe!</i><br /><br />Please provide a citation by someone on "the Left" to support this statement.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-65376173165764310332011-11-04T20:50:33.541-05:002011-11-04T20:50:33.541-05:00I note the "ACORN" article was based on ...I note the "ACORN" article was based on "sources" who were not named, nor was any reason given to provide them anonymity.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-81493440567076888402011-11-04T13:44:59.038-05:002011-11-04T13:44:59.038-05:00True...
Liberalism tends to beget violence.True... <br /><br />Liberalism tends to beget violence.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874712703862427318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-55237999380464340902011-11-04T11:45:51.326-05:002011-11-04T11:45:51.326-05:00"When, ever, did a Tea Party rally turn viole..."<i>When, ever, did a Tea Party rally turn violent?</i>"<br /><br />Actually, Eric, there was that one in St. Louis where Union thugs beat up that black guy selling Obama paraphernalia.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-29606349649369388702011-11-04T09:30:50.206-05:002011-11-04T09:30:50.206-05:00Never.Never.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874712703862427318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-12735362322968803612011-11-04T09:30:04.637-05:002011-11-04T09:30:04.637-05:00OWS Supporters:
Union Chief: 'We Need More Mi...OWS Supporters:<br /><br /><a href="http://nation.foxnews.com/occupy-wall-street/2011/11/03/union-chief-we-need-more-militancy-blocking-bridges-occupying-banks" rel="nofollow">Union Chief: 'We Need More Militancy ... Blocking Bridges, Occupying Banks'</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/03/acorn-officials-scramble-firing-workers-and-shredding-documents-after-exposed/" rel="nofollow">ACORN Officials Scramble, Firing Workers and Shredding Documents, After Exposed as Players Behind Occupy Wall Street Protests</a><br /><br />Video link: <a href="http://video.foxnews.com/v/1241898522001/" rel="nofollow">Who’s Supporting Occupy Wall Street?</a><br /><br /><br />When, ever, did a Tea Party rally turn violent?Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874712703862427318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-43406548542024848982011-11-04T08:56:28.065-05:002011-11-04T08:56:28.065-05:00Jim, your comments have devolved recently into pue...Jim, your comments have devolved recently into puerile <i>"I know you are, but what am I"</i>'s. Why even waste your time? Why bother if you have nothing truly substantive to offer?<br /><br />But allow me, just this once, to fire back in kind.<br /><br /><br /><i>"No basis in fact."</i><br /><br />And yet you offer none of your own. Tell us, Jim, just how bright it is to allow your 'movement' in New York to become such a defecatingly blatant 'rage against the machine' movement, AND the largest enclave of sexually transmitted disease in the city, perhaps even the state. How bright is it to protest Wall Street when they're not the ones who set up the rules... Washington did. Ergo, they are not the brightest bulbs in the pack. Their little "lets shine a light on the ugly truth of American disparity" party is misdirected.<br /><br /><i>"Many of the people at OWS are working people."</i><br /><br />Perhaps they were when they began their protests, but I highly doubt that's true by now. What employer would save a job for someone who cared more about themselves and their ideological endeavors than their employer's commitment to them? I wouldn't give any of these people their jobs back when they came home, because the person they were protesting against, whether they realized it or not, was me.<br /><br /><i>"The 99% don't want the 1%'s wealth. They want the same rules."</i><br /><br />This is ignorantly false. They DO want the 1%'s wealth. And they DO have the same rules, <i>mon frere!</i> They just lack the initiative and drive to take whatever wherewithal they possess and make something happen in their own lives.<br /><br /><i>"It is dishonest to suggest that the broader movement's motives are socialist because some socialist may sympathize with the broader movement."</i><br /><br />Except that it's not. Have you even listened to any of the interviews with these folk? Obviously not. Anarchist literature is floating free in and among your romantic protests. And radicals-- especially and predominantly on the west coast --have infiltrated and taken over the protests. It's not dishonest to call a spade a 'spade'.<br /><br /><i>"and you should see the list of Tea Party supporters."</i><br /><br />Here's the difference between Tea Party supporters and Occupy supporters. Tea Party supporters aren't interested in tearing down business in America, they're interested in rooting out corruption in Washington. Your crowd is more interested in tearing down capitalism (because in their minds it is evil; which is ridiculous), rather than the real threat and evil residing in and emanating from Washington DC.<br /><br /><i>"...utterly irrelevant. It's not what the Left wants anyone to believe."</i><br /><br />LOL. You are a fool, aren't you? Haven't you been paying attention the last three years? <br /><br />No. You haven't.<br /><br />That's EXACTLY what the Left wants us to believe! The Left want us to believe we can continue to spend like drunken sailors ANT NOT default on our obligations, and CONTINUE to live the high life!Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874712703862427318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-72562858720481347122011-11-03T21:05:17.358-05:002011-11-03T21:05:17.358-05:00By any objective standard, the 99 Percent are not ...<i>By any objective standard, the 99 Percent are not the brightest bunch,</i><br /><br />No basis in fact.<br /><br /><i>they really represent the roughly 20 percent of Americans who are irrevocably dependent upon government subsides, and pay no income tax.</i><br /><br />No basis in fact. Many of the people at OWS are working people.<br /><br /><i>The intellectually challenged Occupy morons have built their movement around the errant assertion that if the assets of the 1 Percent were entirely redistributed, everyone would live happily ever after.</i><br /><br />This is false. Nobody (but possibly the very, very fringe) is advocating that wealth should be entirely redistributed. This is a myth and a Republican talking point. The 99% don't want the 1%'s wealth. They want the same rules.<br /><br />That's it: They want the same rules.<br /><br /><i>"redistributive justice"</i><br /><br />Feel free to actually cite the source of this supposed quote from Obama and include the context. Here's a hint: The context is fairness, equality of opportunity. Not equality of income or equality of wealth. Those are myths and more Republican talking points.<br /><br /><i>Of course, there's a problem with liquidating the assets of the 1 percent</i><br /><br />Of course. And nobody has suggested that be done. That's Bill O'Reilly talk.<br /><br /><i>If you have any doubt about the socialist motives of the Occupy Movement</i><br /><br />A nice but dishonest technique. It is dishonest to suggest that the broader movement's motives are socialist because some socialist may sympathize with the broader movement.<br /><br />Dishonest.<br /><br /><i>I suggest you review the official list of Occupy supporters</i><br /><br />yeah, and you should see the list of Tea Party supporters.<br /><br /><i>Because despite what the Left wants us to believe, you can't have your cake and eat it too.</i><br /><br />Nice close but utterly irrelevant. It's not what the Left wants anyone to believe.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-79394268589212124242011-11-03T15:24:44.072-05:002011-11-03T15:24:44.072-05:00Per my comments in the previous post, I reiterate ...Per my comments in the previous post, I reiterate that no such rights, as FDR claims, exist to man. No one has a right to the sweat equity of another; especially when said 'other' refuses to work himself. These are not rights our government is constitutionally authorized to provide, and every other government who has tried to do so has failed miserably. The only thing I can derive from the Left's attempts to do so here, in terms of the quality of their expertise, logic and understanding, is that they don't read, let alone grasp, history-- namely, the mistakes other nations and peoples have made-- enter the ghost of George Santayana, everyone?<br /><br />Socialism is a bust in Europe, and yet the American Left wants to flog that very same dead horse here. Communism failed... everywhere. And yet there are those in this country who wish to see all those failed promises and resultant miseries imported here. <br /><br />No amount of logic will sway the brain dead. Were this an episode of <a href="http://www.amctv.com/shows/the-walking-dead" rel="nofollow">The Walking Dead</a>, we'd have to destroy what's left of their brains to save ourselves. This, however, is not a weekly hour of horror fantasy... it's every day life in 21st century America.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874712703862427318noreply@blogger.com