tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post4073621441769631971..comments2023-05-10T04:52:13.662-05:00Comments on American Descent: Stilling a Heartbeat is Murder.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-1690387810175403212011-03-19T22:24:34.610-05:002011-03-19T22:24:34.610-05:00BTW,
Well said, MA.BTW,<br /><br />Well said, MA.Al-Ozarkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03034820391347139672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-87201587416104482682011-03-19T22:21:15.359-05:002011-03-19T22:21:15.359-05:00I'm surprised some of you haven't written ...I'm surprised some of you haven't written about Japan or Lybia by now.<br /><br />Obama is throwing the leadership of the free-world into the laps of the incompetents in Europe. America's descent is accelerating by the second.<br /><br />I predict either Venezuela, China, or Iran will make aggressive moves in the coming days and weeks. Possibly all...for the most effect.Al-Ozarkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03034820391347139672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-4836400712147548512011-03-05T04:53:13.450-06:002011-03-05T04:53:13.450-06:00"All of your moral arguments to this point ha...<i>"All of your moral arguments to this point have not swayed anyone."</i><br /><br />Ben. You presume this reflects badly on the arguments. The failure is in those who resist the logic and truth of the arguments. It is not an opinion that the unborn are people endowed with the unalienable right to life. It is a scientific fact.<br /><br />Like so many others, you make the subjective decision that because the unborn can't do this or that, or hasn't developed this or that organ that you can insist personhood has yet to be achieved. How self-serving and Klan-like. A fetus is dependent because it's designed that way. It isn't in the womb by choice, but by invitation. And some contemptable slug is going to decide when that invited person is worthy of continued life? That is some high quality of character your position supports there, Ben.<br /><br />And then you come up with this notion of how and when such things should be decided. The first thing that should have been decided never was: the status of the unborn. Which SCOTUS decision dictated when life begins? I don't think Roe v Wade covered it.Marshal Arthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054268632726520871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-28949217735197498742011-03-04T15:27:19.170-06:002011-03-04T15:27:19.170-06:00Stilling a heartbeat isn't murder. Murder has...Stilling a heartbeat isn't murder. Murder has both moral and legal definitions. It's pretty clear that as the law stands up until 22-24 weeks an abortion is not legally murder. Morally it may be murder, but that is a choice and decision that each individual woman/couple must make and live with. What you want is a change in the legal definition of murder to include stilling a heartbeat earlier. All of your moral arguments to this point have not swayed anyone. You will not succeed in your goal as long as you continue this same course.<br /><br />To my mind there can be no murder if the fetus can not both breathe and have a heartbeat separate from the mother. While the fetus is still dependent on the mother's body for life it is hers to take or give. <br /><br />And when the time come that technology is able to support the undeveloped fetus externally of the mother, then there better be a private organization willing to take on the task of the preemie care. And even further into the child's life there better be a private organization willing to support the care and development of the resulting child. <br /><br />At some intermediate point a mother passes the pint of no-cost termination and before the point of safe delivery of the child where there must be evaluation. But those decision shouldn't be guided by harsh legislative or punitive diktat. They should be requests brought before and handled by the judicial branch, which is designed to address such individual needs and cases.<br /><br />That's what I want. Please do not ever ascribe to me desires or motives beyond what I have outlined above. It is the simple basic truth. <br /><br />What solutions would you want of this moral question?BenT - the unbelievernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-55297068153043567392011-03-03T21:53:25.794-06:002011-03-03T21:53:25.794-06:00"Stoning is legal in Iran; does that make it ..."Stoning is legal in Iran; does that make it right?"<br /><br />I don't live in Iran. Do you?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10004209843701697773noreply@blogger.com