tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post1012353875592581032..comments2023-05-10T04:52:13.662-05:00Comments on American Descent: To Where Is America Descending?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-87623866565969271922008-12-03T19:55:00.000-06:002008-12-03T19:55:00.000-06:00Mark, Excellent post. JWR has an article on OB's...Mark, Excellent post. JWR has an article on OB's appointments. I think it was yesterday or day before. Also a great read....much discord here....I think you are spot on....stay well...Taplinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00161842191574184492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-70768990270652117112008-11-13T22:06:00.000-06:002008-11-13T22:06:00.000-06:00You're the one who applies the common sense of the...You're the one who applies the common sense of the Bible literally. Are you just going to ignore it here?<BR/><BR/>Of does this part not apply to now (which is doing what I have always suggested we do with scripture: interpret it).Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-12250849410461164712008-11-13T18:40:00.000-06:002008-11-13T18:40:00.000-06:00I sincerely doubt God uses Obama. God would never ...I sincerely doubt God uses Obama. God would never advocate killing babies.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-15064060144007406932008-11-12T09:12:00.000-06:002008-11-12T09:12:00.000-06:00God, Mark, you sound like a four year old who refu...God, Mark, you sound like a four year old who refuses to be potty trained. Using the toilet is the right thing to do, your will has nothing to do with it.<BR/><BR/>And who said anything about a belief that God needs a country to do anything? That's your anger and paranoia putting words in our mouths. But try to weasel out of this: Paul says God uses a country to do lots of things, Romans 13:1-6.<BR/><BR/>So you can help yourself by seeing yourself as being used by God via Barack Obama.<BR/><BR/>It's a lot healthier... and BiblicalFeodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-86843924028201552282008-11-12T07:35:00.000-06:002008-11-12T07:35:00.000-06:00"Perhaps you can mature from your commie obsession..."Perhaps you can mature from your commie obsession that sells a false heaven so cheaply and pick up the heavy work of Jesus: housing the homeless, taking in the widows and orphans, sharing what all have together so that all have something."<BR/><BR/>Feo, I am continually surprised at your ignorance. Yes, we are to house the homeless, take in widows and orphans, share, etc. <BR/><BR/>But we are supposed to do those things <B>VOLUNTARILY</B>!!! We are not to be forced to do any of those things against our will. The belief that God needs government to mandate what we should do voluntarily demonstrates a lack of faith in a God Who can make that work without governments help.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-8676097358490700362008-11-11T22:57:00.000-06:002008-11-11T22:57:00.000-06:00Feodor spouted:"...sells a false heaven so cheaply...Feodor spouted:<BR/><BR/>"...sells a false heaven so cheaply..."<BR/><BR/>I thought you hippies were all about hope and change, Feodora!<BR/><BR/>I'm appalled!<BR/><BR/>I keep forgetting that the saviour has arrived.<BR/><BR/>He'll be annointed in January, right?Al-Ozarkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03034820391347139672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-34156476366659245322008-11-11T10:35:00.000-06:002008-11-11T10:35:00.000-06:00Kind of weird to see you guys reveling in Soviet C...Kind of weird to see you guys reveling in Soviet Communism.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I would think that you both are the kind of guys that know the slogan, "What Would Jesus Do?" is precisely a call to work to make heaven active here on earth while acknowledging that perfection will never arrive.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you can mature from your commie obsession that sells a false heaven so cheaply and pick up the heavy work of Jesus: housing the homeless, taking in the widows and orphans, sharing what all have together so that all have something. <BR/><BR/>You'll find this in your New Testament, when you read it.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-39021237193768895382008-11-11T10:08:00.000-06:002008-11-11T10:08:00.000-06:00Feodor said:"al-ozarka, which in Arabic means "fro...Feodor said:<BR/><BR/>"al-ozarka, which in Arabic means "from the Ozarks..."<BR/><BR/>If that ain't an occasion for a "d-uh!", there never was one!<BR/><BR/>Thanks to my pal, Truth-Pain for inspiring the name...I love it!Al-Ozarkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03034820391347139672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-6911897192539182242008-11-11T10:05:00.000-06:002008-11-11T10:05:00.000-06:00Too difficult for your to grasp, ain't it, Feodor?...Too difficult for your to grasp, ain't it, Feodor?Al-Ozarkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03034820391347139672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-25012363349611504432008-11-10T23:11:00.000-06:002008-11-10T23:11:00.000-06:00Too bad it wasn't you, Feodor...Too bad it wasn't you, Feodor...tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-10365778333515448892008-11-10T16:05:00.000-06:002008-11-10T16:05:00.000-06:00al-ozarka, which in Arabic means "from the Ozarks,...al-ozarka, which in Arabic means "from the Ozarks," says from one side of his mouth that socialism is heaven...<BR/><BR/>and then from the other that we should not work toward it. <BR/><BR/>That is the exact same stance o Soviet Communism.<BR/><BR/>Congratulations, someone here finally understands something.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-88744749272796328842008-11-10T15:57:00.000-06:002008-11-10T15:57:00.000-06:00Mark said:"God has no place in Socialism."On this ...Mark said:<BR/><BR/>"God has no place in Socialism."<BR/><BR/>On this earth, Mark. As long as humans rule it. And until Christ reigns, that's what it will be...humans ruling it.Al-Ozarkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03034820391347139672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-30317701387995907042008-11-10T15:54:00.000-06:002008-11-10T15:54:00.000-06:00Feodor said: "You say faith is incompatible with s...Feodor said: <BR/><BR/>"You say faith is incompatible with socialism but give no reason why."<BR/><BR/>I can. Socialism is IMPOSSIBLE among imperfect humankind. As long as there is greed and humankind is motivated by it, socialism will never succeed.<BR/><BR/>I do believe we'll one day live under a perfect socialism, however. When he who is perfect rules the earth.<BR/><BR/>I know y'all think that means Obama, but some of us are waaaay more realistic than that.Al-Ozarkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03034820391347139672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-87231081646644031802008-11-10T15:30:00.000-06:002008-11-10T15:30:00.000-06:00Meanwhile, Russia, having turned heavily capitalis...Meanwhile, Russia, having turned heavily capitalist and hard back to Orthodoxy Christianity, is an increasing threat to NATO.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-61818816732543654962008-11-10T15:22:00.000-06:002008-11-10T15:22:00.000-06:00I find it fascinating that Mark completely ignores...I find it fascinating that Mark completely ignores Feodor's estimable point that such nations as Sweden, Norway, and Denmark are officially Lutheran while having robust socialist polities. He continues to write about Marx and Lenin, while ignoring the current reality that religion exists in all sorts of variations in all sorts of polities. Ours is officially a secular nation, yet one of the most robustly religious in the world. Go figure.<BR/><BR/>America is not descending anywhere, except perhaps finally throwing off the horrid weight of "lone superpower", and becoming just one among the 200 or so nation-states on the planet. It will be nice to be just another place, better than most, worse than a few, for a change. We will not have to worry so much about what others do, how they organize their lives, and can be America without worrying that China, say, or Venezuela isn't America enough.<BR/><BR/>By the way, Marx was quite correct in his description of the religion of his day being the opiate of the people. For many, it still is. This is hardly an atheistic statement, since many Christians over the centuries have said, roughly, the same thing. I see no reason in the world why anyone should get their panties in a wad about it.Geoffrey Kruse-Saffordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11242660591954094499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-65530011573779760552008-11-10T15:05:00.000-06:002008-11-10T15:05:00.000-06:00I'm doing the Lord's work.I'm doing the Lord's work.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-71003340151434249492008-11-10T15:01:00.001-06:002008-11-10T15:01:00.001-06:00"2. Socialism and its various forms are not "neces..."2. Socialism and its various forms are not "necessarily atheistic.""<BR/><BR/>It most certainly is, as Marx envisioned it, and as Lenin enforced it.<BR/><BR/>Let's get one thing straight:<BR/><BR/>Marx envisioned a collective utopia, wherein every person is equal. Lenin attempted to implement that philosophy, but upon finding out it is impossible to achieve by people who are diverse in as many different ways as there are grains of sand on a beach, tried to force equality on the people. <BR/><BR/>Obama has the same dream cultivated from studying the works of Marx, and Alinsky, and listening to various Marxist mentors throughout his formative years. And he appears to naively believe it can still work.<BR/><BR/>"4. To talk about God having whatever beard God so chooses is to talk like a nine year old."<BR/><BR/>Oh that's right. Go for the cheap ad hominen attack instead of addressing the point. That's ok. Thats what all so-called intellectuals do when they can't win an argument. You are in good company with the likes of Keith Overbite and Chris "Screwball on Screwball" Matthews.<BR/><BR/>You are beginning to bore me. Go back to work.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-75774966787801327052008-11-10T15:01:00.000-06:002008-11-10T15:01:00.000-06:00And to blare such beliefs in the open marketplace ...And to blare such beliefs in the open marketplace outside of a context of mutual engagement and respect is false Christianity.<BR/><BR/>Paul engaged in the marketplace of ideas, using Greek philosophical and theological discourse to connect and persuade.<BR/><BR/>First, appreciate the fine points of Islam and then engage in love.<BR/><BR/>That is being a Christian. <BR/> <BR/>Not hollering from the depths of dogmatism.<BR/><BR/>You do not pattern yourselves after the very models you claim. <BR/><BR/>Whited sepulchers.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-71002229790913284342008-11-10T14:54:00.000-06:002008-11-10T14:54:00.000-06:00"Don't tear down religion and democracies wont put...<I>"Don't tear down religion and democracies wont put you on trial."</I><BR/><BR/>And what of freedom of speech? Is it illegal to have an opinion about the validity of another faith? Say, Islam? <BR/><BR/>If the God of the Bible is the only God, and there is no other way to heaven but through the sacrifice of Jesus, then Islam is a false religion.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08874712703862427318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-65585047983052848542008-11-10T14:13:00.000-06:002008-11-10T14:13:00.000-06:00Mark, you're weaseling. You wrote:"Let me add her...Mark, you're weaseling. You wrote:<BR/><BR/>"Let me add here, also, that God has no place in Marx’s concept of Communism. Communism is a necessarily atheistic system."<BR/><BR/>Now you are recognizing your overreach and trying to say that Marx simply did not have a place to put God.<BR/><BR/>Let's put in a way you can read:<BR/><BR/>1. Marx was anti-religious. <BR/><BR/>2. Socialism and its various forms are not "necessarily atheistic."<BR/><BR/>3. "He" is not God.<BR/><BR/>4. To talk about God having whatever beard God so chooses is to talk like a nine year old.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-47874543534329442632008-11-10T14:01:00.000-06:002008-11-10T14:01:00.000-06:00I am a lazy unemployed layabout. And I'm in a com...I am a lazy unemployed layabout. And I'm in a commentary thread with you.<BR/><BR/>Humm. <BR/><BR/>And what are you?<BR/><BR/>It's that sharp mind of yours <BR/>at work again.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-5120923186122811112008-11-10T13:59:00.000-06:002008-11-10T13:59:00.000-06:00Mark, who hates to have to match wits in a discuss...Mark, who hates to have to match wits in a discussion, turns into a sophomore again.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-4964845887050261132008-11-10T13:58:00.000-06:002008-11-10T13:58:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-21900400523988575092008-11-10T13:57:00.000-06:002008-11-10T13:57:00.000-06:00EL, exactly! Don't tear down religion and democra...EL, exactly! Don't tear down religion and democracies wont put you on trial.<BR/><BR/>It's all you anti-religious anger that is so especially <BR/>disconcerting.Feodorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02216659885831979653noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-570497968855832694.post-35619957655161485562008-11-10T13:55:00.000-06:002008-11-10T13:55:00.000-06:00By the way, Feo, aren't you recovered sufficiently...By the way, Feo, aren't you recovered sufficiently to go back to work yet? Or have you quit work, expecting him to give you everything you used to work for, as so many Obama worshippers are?Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.com