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>> Wednesday, November 7, 2012

In October of 2009 I posted the following article: A Second American Civil War? Liberal commenters complained about its length and supposed "false-logic chains". There was nothing false about the logic, merely disagreement with said logic. The point then was to illustrate that we are all puppets to government and media, more specifically to politicians and ideologues within mainstream media (it should go without saying that politicians are likewise, by and large, ideologues). Will there be another civil war? Not likely, we as a nation are too cowed by promise of cradle to grave care. We have, most of us at least, returned to the plantation.

September of last year, 2011, I posted another "Questions to Consider" entry. The main thrust of the post? What happens when 50% or more of Americans are getting a handout of some sort from the government? The answer? President Obama's victory last night.

To quote Rush Limbaugh today, 

"One of the greatest misunderstandings in this country, if you boil all this down, is what creates prosperity. The Romney campaign was essentially about that, and the Romney campaign was devoted to the traditional American view and history -- vision, as well -- of what creates prosperity. The old capitalism, the old arguments of hard work, stick-to-itiveness, self-reliance, charity, helping out in the community.

"All of these things that define the traditional institutions that made this country great, that's what the Romney campaign was about. It was rejected. That way, or that route to prosperity was sneered at. That route to prosperity was rejected. The people who voted for Obama don't believe in it. They don't think it's possible. They think the game's rigged. They think the deck is stacked against them.

"They think that the only way they're gonna have a chance for anything is if somebody comes along and takes from somebody else and gives it to them. Santa Claus! And it's hard to beat Santa Claus."
I firmly believe America is lost, though not for anything Rush said today. I've talked about that in the past, and I'll remind you in posts to come, but for now, we have, as I stated in my 'Questions to Consider' from last year,

"A permanent underclass dependent upon government handouts and a permanent party power-structure in Washington... "
I wish to God that this weren't true. But I don't have the same level of faith in human nature as my liberal friends-- I know what's in me.

Despite my anger last night, and before closing my eyes, I thanked God for answering my prayer.

More on that later, as well.


BenT - the Unbeliever,  November 8, 2012 at 8:45 AM  

If you really want to understand "the 47%" beyond just the demonizing that conservative political pundits are selling, then read this article by the Washington Post.

It's all charts and hard numbers. This isn't projecting thoughts into other people's heads. This is who demographically those demonized hard workers actually are.

ELAshley November 8, 2012 at 10:35 AM  

I understand the demographics. I get the numbers. None of that explains WHY. Numbers can't explain why... what drives people to vote against their own self-interests. It doesn't explain why they see one set of choices and consequences as better than another.

I'm not quibbling with the numbers. Nor am I demonizing. An argument that differs from another is not demonization, it's simply a difference of perspective-- of understanding. I'm not demonizing the left. I'm saying that America, as a constitutional democracy is dead... if Obama chooses not to moderate his stance to get work done. And since he's shown no desire to moderate in the past, I see no reason to believe he'll moderate for the sake of the country. Obama, by his own admission is FOR a less powerful nation in the world.

And he doesn't have to moderate! He won. Decisively. Just as he told republicans shortly after his first win: "I won," he said to house republicans at a budget conference. In the end, republicans were only there to give him a photo-op. He went and did what HE wanted. But Reagan didn't this, and Obama had the temerity to claim he was more akin to Reagan, than was Romney.

America is much larger than Greece. Lot's of holes can be shot through the meme that America is on the road to Greece. But with the so-called 'fiscal cliff' looming just a few weeks in the distance, one truth that can't be shot full of holes is it is nigh impossible for both houses of congress to write, pass, and reconcile budgetary and tax laws that will avoid the cliff altogether, let alone produce documents the president will actually sign. Taxes ARE going up in January. On everyone. Another failed campaign promise by Obama.

As the world's reserve currency, the U.S. dollar depends on a top-notch credit rating. Fitch has already warned that our AAA rating is in jeopardy because of the looming cliff. Many nations are talking of changing the reserve currency. Russia and China among them. The United Nations wants their own currency as the world's reserve currency.

Should America lose its reserve currency status, our economy will collapse. And if that happens, this house of cards that is our economy will fall.

I'm not trying to be pessimistic, here. I realize it sounds that way. I'm simply trying to be realistic. Our government can't afford to be everything to everyone. We can't make promises to care for every little need or whim of the American people. American's need to learn how to be self-reliant and self-sufficient. Our problem is we've been taught that government is there to pick up the slack in our everyday lives. But that's not the America our Constitution describes. We've become something else. We still call ourselves America. But we ceased to be a constitutional America years ago.

I'll repeat myself... when more than fifty-percent of voters expect government to provide for their care, on any number of levels, the country ceases to be free. One party becomes dominant.

And that, my friend, is called tyranny.

What we are witnessing is an inviolable truth being borne out in our lifetime: Nations rise, nations fall. Nothing lasts for ever. If you want proof of that just ask Rome...

Oh, that's right. Rome is a millenia and more in the tomb. Ask Soviet Russia... oh, that's right, they're gone too.

Neither of us, however, need worry about America's final days. Neither of us will live to see it.

Jim November 9, 2012 at 8:10 PM  

I'm saying that America, as a constitutional democracy is dead... if Obama chooses not to moderate his stance to get work done.

What has he done in his first term that wasn't moderate?

I'll repeat myself... when more than fifty-percent of voters expect government to provide for their care

Do you know how many people are on welfare right now? About 4.6 million, or around 1.5% of the population.

About 10 times that are on food stamps due to being unemployed or under employed. So that's about 15% of the population.

Now unless you think everyone in this country who is temporarily receiving this government assistance is a moocher and wants to continue being moochers, these people need temporary help. Do some people game the system? As Mitt Romney about his taxes and see if some people game the system.

There is a relatively small number of people on government assistance and most of those are only being assisted temporarily. The 47% or 30% or whatever percent of the country being takers and not makers is a myth perpetrated by the Karl Roves of this nation.

Feodor November 13, 2012 at 6:51 AM  

"I have to agree with Miss Coulter who describes liberalism, and those who have sold their souls to it, as Demonic."

EL Ashley on 11.6

"I'm not quibbling with the numbers. Nor am I demonizing. An argument that differs from another is not demonization, it's simply a difference of perspective-- of understanding. I'm not demonizing the left."

EL Ashley on 11.7

This is what's called a Personality Disorder.

Feodor November 13, 2012 at 6:55 AM  

"And I further believe the Senate will be Republican."

EL Ashley on 10.29


All that "deep" critical thinking about polling, etc. Missed everything about how women would feel, how American latinos would feel, how those younger than 40 would feel, how those making below $75K would feel.

Mark November 13, 2012 at 11:35 AM  

Feodork's starting to get it, I think.

That's the main difference between Conservatives and Liberals:

Liberals FEEL. Conservatives THINK.

Feodor November 13, 2012 at 1:08 PM  

You've cut off your feelings, Mark. So, with nothing left - since you clearly did not start off with the equipment to think - you're a Republican.

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