Presidential Fail

>> Monday, June 21, 2010

"I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts." ~ Will Rogers

This is no joke. Obama has admitted to refusing to secure our borders.

These are the words to the oath of office that every president-elect is required to repeat upon his inauguration:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."


The number one job of the President of the United States of America is to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. If the President of the United States of America refuses to defend the people of the United States, whom the Constitution was written to protect, shouldn't he be impeached, and removed from office?



If evidence is presented to the American people that the President of the United States is refusing to secure our borders for the sake of some pet legislation, shouldn't his impeachment and subsequent removal from office be demanded by the American people?

Is Barack Hussein Obama fit to be President of the United States?

In my opinion, he is not only unfit to hold the office of President of the United States of America, he should be tried for treason.

Cross posted at Casting Pearls Before Swine

40 comments:

Jim June 21, 2010 at 8:42 PM  

Although the White House says that Kyl is lying, you will never be able to make a case that the President is failing to protect and defend the Constitution or the country since US border guards ARE deployed at the borders AND he has sent National Guard to support them. Not to mention the precedent of his predecessor.

But go for it if you must.

Marshall Art June 21, 2010 at 10:14 PM  

Jim,

First of all, going through the motions does not mean that Obama is serious about securing the border. And another precedent from his predecessor is that freakin' fence that ain't finished. What's Obama doing about that since most Americans (I'm guessing, but sure) would like to see it completed?

Secondly, "...the White House says that Kyl is lying..." Which White House? The one in Washington? Well. That seals the deal then, doesn't it? Right.

Thirdly, I will state that if Kyl got a private interview with the Prez, he's a fool to report on anything that wasn't recorded or heard by a third party. It doesn't matter if it is true or not. It doesn't matter if Kyl has a reputation for absolute honesty. To put forth a tale like that just won't do him, or us, any good because Obama & Friends will naturally say Kyl's lying.

Fourthly, it sounds like something a Chicago Democrat would say.

Jim June 21, 2010 at 10:19 PM  

Chicago, Shmicago. Politics is politics anywhere. What a lame thing to characterize everything you don't like about Obama's "methods" as Chicago politics. Really lame.

Edwin Drood June 22, 2010 at 12:14 AM  

DHS cut the funding for the border fence. I worked network security for about a year on that project and it was doomed. The problem was giving it to Boeing.

That being said can anyone name one thing Obama has to gain from securing the borders?

Has Obama ever in his life sacrificed something for the greater good at his own expense?

Mark June 22, 2010 at 5:56 AM  

I have a better question, Edwin.

Has Obama ever told the truth to the public?

I asked this question once before he was elected, and it was an honest question I really didn't know. Now I'm convinced he lies every time there is sound issuing from betwixt his moving lips.

I have no doubt he told the truth when speaking to Sen. Kyl.

Edwin Drood June 22, 2010 at 7:49 AM  

He did tell Joe the plumber he was going to force us to "share the wealth"

ELAshley June 22, 2010 at 9:00 AM  

Before reading this post... I had a thought this morning while watching the news and preparing for work: Obama is so bad a president that we are treated daily to an ever growing list of examples of his gross inadequacies. Every single day, seemingly, we are witness to more and more compelling evidence to the same. He is incompetent as a leader. He was obviously a great community organizer/agitator, but he has never run anything of consequence. For all his Senate experience, neither has Joe Biden for that matter.

Clinton, for all his flaws, had management experience prior to taking office. Though conservatives blasted him often for his policies AND his peccadilloes, it is now undeniable that four more years of Clinton would have been preferable to Carter's second term.

But this, I'm coming to believe, is an insult to Carter. I would almost prefer four more years of REAL Jimmy Carter, than the two years, thus far, of Barack Obama. Obama has been an unqualified disaster.

Add to what Sen. Kyl said of Obama, to what Gen McChristal said about Obama's handling of the war in Afghanistan... not all of these people criticizing the president for his mismanagement of the United States are lying. At some point the weight of so much testimony breaks the back of any argument against them. It is becoming increasingly clear that Obama is out of his league and out of his depth as president. Will the country be left in ruins when he leaves office in 2012? I give it a 90% "no". But look at all the damage he HAS done so far...

Anecdotal: [acceptable evidence in Dan's world]

Black woman in line at Wal Mart says to cashier: "I just can't believe how racial all you white people are!"

Cashier: "Hello! I'M white!"

Black woman: "Yes, and you hate Obama! I heard what you said to that man ahead of me.. Obama is not destroying this country."

Cashier: "Calling Obama bad for the country doesn't make me a racist. Calling you a "nigger" MIGHT make me a racist. But everyone knows you niggers hate white folk. So what does that make you? No better than me! You're the racist!"

Black woman: "I want to speak to your manager!"

Cashier: [gesturing, spreading her arms wide] "Go ahead. Do you see any managers here?"

[for the record... I didn't see any managers, ANYWHERE... they were all AWOL]

Man behind me: "Shut up nigger and get outta here!"


Should the cashier have called the woman a nigger? Absolutely not. Should the Black woman have called all whites racists? Definitely not! What has Obama done for this country but deepen the racial divide. He himself has demonstrated his own racism more than once since taking office.

Everywhere I look I see evidence of his failure. And nowhere more notably than in the people who support him. He used race to win the White House, and he's using it still to divide the country.

He's using race in the border argument. And Kyl simply told the truth.

Dan Trabue June 22, 2010 at 9:54 AM  

Please, Eric, tell me that when this racist attack against this woman happened that you stepped up and stood up for her, even though you disagreed with her politics.

Dan Trabue June 22, 2010 at 10:10 AM  

No wonder she thinks white folk are racist, given the treatment of her at a PUBLIC store. If that's how you treat your black brothers and sisters in public, how do you talk about them - what do you do to them - in private?

It does not sound like to me she was being racist. You left off the comments leading up to her reprimand, but she seemed to me (in your story) to be talking about the behavior of "all you white people" who talk that way are being.

I'd be willing to bet that if I or some REASONABLE white person were to meet with her and talk with her, the truth would be is that she is not racist.

Regardless, it is clear as day that the behavior of the white folk in that store that day WAS racist and hateful as HELL. And I mean that quite literally.

That sort of behavior needs to be stopped, Eric. Take a stand against racism in Alabama, man.

Mark June 22, 2010 at 11:49 AM  

"It does not sound like to me she was being racist."

"I just can't believe how racial all you white people are!"

You're right, Dan. This woman accusing "all you white people" of being racial is not racist. What were you thinking, Eric?

Mark June 22, 2010 at 11:51 AM  

Hmmm,

I don't know what you'd call a black or brown person who hates all whites. But, if Dan's thinking is any indication, they simply can't be called a racist. Only white people can be racist.

Marshall Art June 22, 2010 at 2:57 PM  

"What a lame thing to characterize everything you don't like about Obama's "methods" as Chicago politics."

Actually, Jim, if you've been paying attention, I tend to characterize most things I don't like about Obama as "incompetent", "socialist", "stupid", "inexperienced for the job". But this type of action, as well as the shakedown, reminds me so much of the mayor (and his father) of Chicago, the city of my birth, the the characterization is appropriate.

Marshall Art June 22, 2010 at 3:12 PM  

Dan,

Regarding Eric's anecdotal tale, it pretty obvious that the black woman was first to suggest something that "white people" do. That is a racist comment. The cashier was obviously offended at the blanket statement, though that does not excuse her own use of racial epithets.

(I'm guessing, however, that it is far more common in Alabama and though objectionable to the blacks there, not to the extent of the more sensitive northern liberal "use-the-race-card-whenever-possible" black people. I have no way of knowing for sure. I'm just guessing, because I can't believe all black people are so thin skinned as the Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton types.)

As to the man behind Eric, I'm guessing he just wanted the woman to move on and stop holding him up. An insult of any kind would serve to effect that aim.

The point here is that the first one to get "racial" was indeed the black woman. If Eric was going to interject, he would have to first respond to HER racism. But there really doesn't need to be a civil rights lecture or lesson for every use of a racial epithet. A little discernment, discretion and common sense is the first order of business.

Dan Trabue June 22, 2010 at 3:37 PM  

As to whether or not this woman was racist, I don't know, obviously. I don't know the woman and I wasn't there. Based on Eric's description of the incident, I would tend to think not. Unlike Mark's ignorant take on the point, she did not claim to hate all white people.

It appears to me, based on Eric's description, she was referring specifically to "all you whites" in that conversation. None of us can know, since none of us were there.

Clearly, though, the white folk in that situation were horrifyingly racist and I hope Eric stood up for that woman.

Learn to do right! Seek justice, encourage the oppressed. Defend the cause of the fatherless, plead the case of the widow.

~The Prophet Isaiah

Marshall Art June 22, 2010 at 4:03 PM  

"It appears to me, based on Eric's description, she was referring specifically to "all you whites" in that conversation."

Really? You're going to go with THAT? "All you whites" is the first thing the average person would think to say when there are more specific ways of addressing the people involved? I certainly would never thing to say "all you anabaptists" when YOU say something stupid. In fact, the thought has never occurred to me despite your routine reference to your "anabaptism". What an incredible stretch to indict white people, Dan. Your White Guilt is showing.

Marshall Art June 22, 2010 at 4:06 PM  

Getting back to the post itself, I offer this. Sort of like how showing an actual birth certificate would end all discussion.

Anonymous,  June 22, 2010 at 4:59 PM  

I here stuff like this all the time at Walmart. Blacks accusing whites of being racial cos they don't like Obama. thats not racism, not liking Obama. Anyone with a lick of sence knows that two whites arguing aren't racist against each other, so why suddenly is it racist for a white to disagree with a black? Whites here it all the time from blacks that they are racist. but its the black whos being racist cos they can't let go the past where some of their ancesters might have been slaves. Not a single black living in America today has ever been a slave and neither has there parents or grandparents. I for one am tired of being called a racist evreytime I speak up about not liking something the president is saying or has done, simply because he just happens to be black.

Blacks in America need to step up and take responsibility for there owbn actions and words. They sure hold us whites to such a standard. It only right they should hold themselves to the same standard and stop calling each other niggers. They do that allot too. It make sme sick to here it.

ELAshley June 22, 2010 at 5:01 PM  

It makes me sick too, Anon.

Dan Trabue June 23, 2010 at 12:18 AM  

Marshall...

Really? You're going to go with THAT?

I'm not "going to go with that." It's what I think. I've met very few racist black folk, although I'm sure they exist. I HAVE, however, seen people use language like that to talk about a few, not all. Not everyone uses language precisely (see Mark, for instance).

I would be willing to bet that this woman doesn't think "all whites" hate Obama or are bad people. But clearly, these folk who use this ugly epithet were using racist and hateful and oppressive language.

Are you all really defending these racists??

Marshall...

What an incredible stretch to indict white people, Dan. Your White Guilt is showing.

I have no idea what you're talking about, Marshall. Those people (as Eric describes them) ARE racist, by their actions. Or at the very least, are using hateful, racist language. They OUGHT to be indicted and called on their racist language.

There's no "white guilt" in standing up to abusive, bullying, racist language in an effort to intimidate a woman into leaving a public venue.

If you all are actually defending the racists in this story, you all are living in an upside down world (and by "all," I mean those who've spoke in this conversation in defense of the racists, not all white people.}

Marshall Art June 23, 2010 at 1:07 AM  

I'm not defending ANY racists, you twit. YOU are. You use the thinnest reasoning to defend the blatant racism in the line "all you white people". Indeed, even if I concede your point that the woman might be referring only to the people with whom she's speaking, she's playing the race card by assuming those people are racist because they believe (and rightly) that Obama is destroying the country. It's the same old story that one cannot oppose this putz without being labelled a racist.

The cashier is obviously turning the black woman's argument back onto her by pretending to indict all "niggers" after explaining the distinction between political opposition and racism. The man behind Eric, obviously is fed up with listening to the whole thing whilst trying to get through the check out so he purposely uses the epithet to piss off the black woman enough to make her leave. YOU prefer to see it as bullying the woman who first played the race card and THAT is what exposes your white guilt. Rather than see the incident for what it is, you weep over evil nasty racist white people ganging up on a black woman. The reality is that some people were merely pointing out the stupidity of another's argument. Much like I'm doing now.

Dan Trabue June 23, 2010 at 1:36 AM  

Wow.

Lord have mercy on us all.

Marshall Art June 23, 2010 at 2:06 AM  

*sigh*

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

Mark June 23, 2010 at 7:47 AM  

Whatever the reason, The white people in line were wrong to call the woman a nigger. There is better and less offensive language to use to defend yourself. Always. They would have injured the racist black woman more with calm logic and tact than with all the racial epithets they could string together.

That said, the black woman was exhibiting every bit as much racist behavior as the white people who decided to argue with her.

It is just plain foolish to accuse people of racism just because they oppose the Presidents policies.

And it's just as foolish to defend the black woman for her racism. It's equally foolish and stupid to deny the woman is a racist, Dan.

As I said before (apparently, Dan didn't get it then), people of color can be racist, too. stupidity isn't a fault that effects whites only.

Dan, you opposed Bush. Does that make you a racist?

ELAshley June 23, 2010 at 8:58 AM  

A better question to ask, Mark, would be, 'Many black people couldn't stand Bush. Does that make THEM racist?'

From my vantage point it's been evident that the blacks in line have always started it by piping up and calling the people who disagree with Obama, racists. They begin by saying, "Isn't it wonderful what Obama is doing for us?" And when the cashier disagrees the instigator replies with an accusation of racism. Despite this being Alabama (and although Alabama has progressed a great deal since the 1960s Civil Rights era) old hatreds do, in some quarters (not just Alabama), die hard and ugly. It's undeniably true.

It is further undeniable that many blacks, because of past mistreatments they or their forebears may or may not have endured, feel free enough to lash out at members of that race most prominent in their collective genetic memories... namely, whites.

No one here, I believe, defends the use of 'nigger' except in discussions such as this; no one here is using the word to slur any black man or woman. Should the cashiers have used better judgments? I think we can all agree that they should have done just that. But I think it's fair to also say, and I'm speaking anecdotally here, that these blacks all brought it down on themselves by resorting to racial demagoguery. I, for one, am not a racist. I just don't like Obama. I think he's been a horrible choice for president, and all I've seen in the last 18 months has borne out my belief. But try convincing my black neighbors that I don't hate (I don't 'hate' anyone, but this is the word I typically hear used by blacks to describe the attitude of anyone critical of Obama specifically, or blacks in general) Obama because of his skin, but rather for his policies and ideology... good luck with that.

If these cashiers were guilty of anything, it was demonstrating a lack of judgment in the face of racially charged insults.

As for the men (and sometimes women) in the lines resorting to verbal attacks? There's no defense for them.

ELAshley June 23, 2010 at 9:00 AM  

As to the topic of this post, I happen to agree with Mark... Obama has failed at both his oath of office AND his management of this nation. He hasn't done EVERYTHING wrong, but he's done enough wrong for me to give him a failing grade.

Dan Trabue June 23, 2010 at 6:24 PM  

And when the cashier disagrees the instigator replies with an accusation of racism.

An accusation borne out by their response. If she was accusing them of being racists, she was obviously right, as evidenced by your own testimony.

Come on, Eric, I know you're a white guy from Alabama, but don't live down to expectations. You're better than that.

Marshall Art June 23, 2010 at 7:24 PM  

"An accusation borne out by their response."

The response that they don't agree Obama is doing a good job? THAT'S the response that signifies their racism? Are you purposely ignoring the chronology Eric describes in order to demonize the whites in question? If anything, the blacks to which Eric refers are baiting people with their stupid question regarding the "good job" Obama is supposedly doing. Anyone not retarded will disagree since the fact is he's doing an extremely crappy job. It has very little to do with his whiteness. That he's a white guy has nothing to do with it. Obama's doing a crappy job. Saying so isn't racism, but that's what the blacks in question are suggesting, and YOU are backing them up.

And no, I don't think the use of racial epithets is a guarantee of racism on the part of the user of such epithets. Poor manners? Poor judgement? Absolutely. But, as I suggested way up above, that dude behind Eric could very likely be pissed that a worthless political argument is going on while he's trying to get through the check out line and get on with his business. What right does anyone have to hold him up when all he wants to do is move on? How best to move the line along? Insult the woman. Eric never mentioned if it had the intended affect, but that doesn't even mean that that dude is racist. It only means he has no problem using the word "nigger" in a public setting. That's not racism. For all we know, his wife is a black woman.

The point here is that you are accusing the instigated rather than the instigator. The instigator was the first to bring race into the equation. White Guilt.

Dan Trabue June 23, 2010 at 8:58 PM  

Marshall: Repeat this story to your black friends (or have we already ascertained that you have no black friends?) and ask them their opinion. TELL them that the attack on this woman was not a racist attack.

Better yet, let me take you down to my hood and you can tell some of the brothers that story and how the poor cashier and white patrons weren't racist.

I can't believe that you are truly this out of touch with reality, Marshall.

As noted, we don't KNOW the first part of the story, Eric didn't relate that (perhaps he didn't hear it, I'm not accusing him of anything, just noting), so we don't know if she was the "instigator" or not.

PERHAPS this black lady was, we can't tell from the conversation related, but clearly, the white folk in this story ARE racist or at the least are engaging in horrifying, oppressive racist language.

Are you so blinded that you can't see that? If so, just ask some of the oppressed and they'll tell you.

Marshall Art June 23, 2010 at 11:23 PM  

I'm not in the least bit blind to reality. That's, however, an affliction from which you most definitely suffer. Let's look again at what Eric has stated:

"From my vantage point it's been evident that the blacks in line have always started it by piping up and calling the people who disagree with Obama, racists. They begin by saying, "Isn't it wonderful what Obama is doing for us?" And when the cashier disagrees the instigator replies with an accusation of racism."

Are you so blind, scratch that, are you so STUPID as to pretend not to see the race-baiting in the tactic just described above? Look it over again and again. Go back to the original script of the event Eric described. Then come back and tell me who made the first racist comment. If you still insist it was the cashier, then I can no longer in good faith protest when Mark refers to you as an "idiot". You would apparently narrow your criteria for recognizing racism to the use of the word "nigger", but tolerate blatant baiting by people like the woman in line. She fishes for compliments for BO from whites, and when she gets any critique whatsoever, she accuses the white of racism. THAT in itself is racist or race-baiting. That the whites in their less than perfect manner refuse to put up with it does not deserve the scorn you insist on heaping upon it as if they just saw a black woman and began, without provocation, to yell nasty words in her direction. No. They were drawn into it and despite their use of the word "nigger" in the very limited scope of the anecdote can you, as someone who poses as a pious and gracious Christian, can reasonably accuse them of being racist.

Some people aren't so worked up over mere words, Dan. Some people aren't so sensitive that they need some yahoo like yourself to step in and get all Civil Rights for them. For all we know, all the people in the original anecdote are all good friends who barbecue together twice a month. You're pretty selective when you decide to let mere words get you all worked up. A chick with "Fuck" scrawled on her person while in church means nothing to you. People in Alabama talking like they always talk does. You don't know those people. You don't know squat. You're merely posturing yourself in your usual, tiresome, holier-than-thou persona that again, as always, fails to impress.

Dan Trabue June 23, 2010 at 11:38 PM  

Sooo, no, you have no black friends?

Not surprising, given your repeated support for racist actions.

Dan Trabue June 23, 2010 at 11:57 PM  

Marshall said...

Some people aren't so worked up over mere words, Dan.

And then...

A chick with "Fuck" scrawled on her person while in church means nothing to you.

Irony, thy name is Marshall.

People in Alabama talking like they always talk does. You don't know those people. You don't know squat.

As I said, none of us know for sure anything in this story. You don't know squat. I don't know squat.

What we DO know, though, is that using that particular epithet has a long and horrifying story in our nation and it is associated with the worst sort of racism and oppression. THAT, we do know. That, and that the white folk in Eric's version of this story embraced that word and apparently NOT A SINGLE person stood up to that sort of bile.

So, the people who SPOKE those words embraced racist tactics and the folk who did not stand against the racist-speakers are either racists, too or just pathetic cowards and moral illiterates.

That's what we know.

Dan Trabue June 24, 2010 at 12:03 AM  

Some people aren't so worked up over mere words, Dan.

Returning to this post, that's what we have: Mere words of Senator Kyl suggesting Obama says something that Obama says he didn't say. No evidence for it, just a man with an agenda making the claim. And you all appear ready to accept (with no corraborating evidence) this claim.

Getting worked up over words much?

Dan Trabue June 24, 2010 at 12:10 AM  

Marshall...

She fishes for compliments for BO from whites, and when she gets any critique whatsoever, she accuses the white of racism. THAT in itself is racist or race-baiting.

Speaking of knowing SQUAT... You've created a whole back story and series of motives in a person you don't know in a limited story with the beginning missing.

Squat: Marshall. Marshall: Squat.

Marshall Art June 24, 2010 at 12:51 AM  

Dan,

You really ARE an idiot, aren't you? You certainly aren't being the least bit gracious. I guess your piety only lasts as long as things are going your way. As to your idiocy, let me take you by the hand to explain why I believe the word so aptly applies to you, as if doing so will actually make a difference.

First of all, I DEFY YOU to show anywhere in this post or any post or comment where I have EVER defended racism in any way, shape or form. I most certainly have NOT defended it here. I explicitly referred to the use of the word "nigger" as poor manners and poor judgement. But I stand by my statement that the mere use of such words does not automatically guarantee the user is a racist.

Beginning with your comment of 11:38PM

Evidence of idiocy:

Exhibit A) Whether or not I have black friends is irrelevant. The validity of my statements do not depend on criteria and parameters set up by the likes of you. But the color of my friends would not have anything to do with whether or not they viewed the story as I do. Their intelligence and objectivity would. Some of my black friends might be as stupid as you are. Others would know better.

Exhibit B) "Marshall said...

Some people aren't so worked up over mere words, Dan.

And then...

A chick with "Fuck" scrawled on her person while in church means nothing to you.

Irony, thy name is Marshall."


You are combining two very different points. I referred to how people react to name-calling, such as the use of racial terms. YOU are apparently appalled at the mere utterance of any of them. I consider the context and the user before I pass any judgement whatsoever.

Then, I referenced a past discussion where you didn't think it was so big a deal that a chick had profanities on her clothes or skin (I don't remember which) plainly visible while in church. Very selective on your part and frankly, not very honorable toward God considering it was during Sunday service. The distinction here should be evident, but again, if you need it explained to you, I'm here for ya.

continued in next comment---

Marshall Art June 24, 2010 at 1:10 AM  

Exhibit C) "...and that the white folk in Eric's version of this story embraced that word and apparently NOT A SINGLE person stood up to that sort of bile."

You're making assumptions about the people and the situation that the extent of the anecdote does NOT support. Worse, you use words like "embrace" to add to the story something you cannot know. Later, you accuse me of adding backstory. Talk about irony.

Exhibit D)

"So, the people who SPOKE those words embraced racist tactics and the folk who did not stand against the racist-speakers are either racists, too or just pathetic cowards and moral illiterates.

That's what we know."


We know nothing of the sort. We don't know anything that happened after the guy behind Eric told the woman, "Shut up nigger and get outta here!" For all we know, Eric could've Bruce Lee'd the crap out of all of 'em. You make assumptions the anecdote does not allow you to make.

Exhibit E) Your 12:03AM comment. What we are getting worked up over, fool, is the implications of Obama's words IF they are true. We have no way of knowing they're true. But we do know that Obama's track record of straight talk leaves enough to be desired that to wager that Kyl is accurate would be a good one to us. You, as a KoolAid drinker, would naturally feel otherwise. That could be an exhibit all by itself.

Exhibit F) "You've created a whole back story and series of motives in a person you don't know in a limited story with the beginning missing."

I've created nothing. I've described exactly what happened according to Eric's own words. Try actually reading the whole comment someone posts before you respond. You'll seem less idiotic. In addition, the most I've done beyond interpreting accurately who first acted in a racist manner, was to give possible explanations for why the whites responded to the race-baiting woman as they did. I've never insisted any explanation was THE explanation, but only possibilities. It's something thoughtful, gracious people do before they accuse others of bad behavior.

Here's another possibility: the whites in the story are indeed the worst type of racists and would easily have strung the woman up for even daring to speak to them were it not 2010. But there's nothing in the story to suggest that either. Only an idiot suffering from White Guilt would assume the worst of a white person with such limited information. And only a poser lacking grace would EVER accuse me of defending racism.

Mark June 24, 2010 at 5:45 AM  

"And you all appear ready to accept (with no corraborating evidence) this claim."

Dan, you Putz.

The corroborating evidence is the fact that Obama is a known liar, and has a long documented history of defying the Constitution for the sake of political expediency.

And, the fact that Kyl has a reputation among his peers for being an honorable man.

No corroborating evidence? No, there's ample evidence of the veracity of the story.

Perhaps you were fumbling for the term, "corroborating eye witness".

Of course, all conversations in the Oval Office are recorded, a fact we learned from the Watergate scandal. If Kyl is lying, why doesn't Obama produce the tape as "corroborating evidence"?

Perhaps it's the same reason he won't produce his school transcripts and birth certificate.

Really, Dan, I don't know whether you are so far up Obama's ass you can't see the light or you are just plain stupid.

I'm guessing you're just stupid.

Mark June 24, 2010 at 5:49 AM  

And, BTW, Dan...what do you mean, "you all"?

That's the kind of language that is labeled "racist" by Liberals like you who pretend to be offended by the slightest nuance.

So, you are a liar, a fraud and a hypocrite, as well as being an idiot.

Mark June 24, 2010 at 5:57 AM  

While I'm here...

"Unlike Mark's ignorant take on the point, she did not claim to hate all white people."

Huh? What "ignorant take" is that, Dan? When I copied and pasted what you said and compared it to what the woman in Eric's anecdote said? Or the one in which I wondered what you call a person of color who exhibits racism, since apparently, you think only white people can be racist?

Because, saying something like, "It does not sound like to me she was being racist.", sounds absolutely ignorant to me.

Mark June 24, 2010 at 5:58 AM  

I take that back. It doesn't sound ignorant. It sounds stupid.

Stupid.

Jim June 27, 2010 at 9:22 PM  

The corroborating evidence is the fact that Obama is a known liar, and has a long documented history of defying the Constitution for the sake of political expediency.

I can't figure out if Mark is ignorant, stupid, or just plain nutty.

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